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any water fasters in here?

2008-09-14T04:22:04Z

i was just wondering what you experience was.

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2008-07-31T18:27:20Z

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Causes of constipation?

2008-05-16T19:45:36Z

Someone help me please. I've had this problem for years but I drink water all the time, eat a fair amount of veggies and fruits, and I exercise reguarly. So what else might be the cause of my lack of bowel movements? I went on a juice fast last weekend combined with cayenne pepper supplements from a dr. Schultz here in Southern California. I think it helped a little bit but I don't feel any strong, permanent change from it, at least not what other people have reported.

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First Time Fast

2008-05-16T19:42:57Z

I'm looking to bring in a new phase in my life by purifing myself as fully as possible. I've never fasted before but am very interested. What kind of fast could I do to clean/detox my body during this transition?

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a real fast

2008-05-15T03:35:25Z

a real fast is only with water ,the rest is a cleanse not a fast. if you havent stopped eating drinking everything but water you have not truely expeinced a fast. it is a spiritual thing to not just a health thing and you do not honestly tap into that realm until you give it all up like jesus and others we love so much. please we should not mislead people in this tribe as to what a fast is

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Thor'sdae of May preceding the last Fridae of Spring the thirteenth

2008-05-15T03:31:42Z

He! all you die hard juicers with endurance to the hilt!
I'm praying for you putting up with my delirious astral nonsense being almost entirely unable to fast since a brahman accidently cursed me as such eight years ago . . . .i have faith my reccureent sugar addictions are not killing off the tribes of the pandavas Ilove you all dearly for your efforts at breathaerianism and trust that the divergent faiths of oxygenating plants via ecstatic vocalization while absorbing nutritional fruits and flowers harmonizing delightfully with the faith of self sustenance without food. . . This dae we're about to birth is my birthdae and if you would all send me so much love . . . . it is sure to be a bright armaggedion for all. . . . and a radiant coming of age for this precious earth planet . . . . Hari bolo!

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a real fast

2008-05-11T15:41:52Z

true fasting is with only water, the rest is called a cleanse, its not a fast

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Issues with fasting- particularly master cleanse

2008-04-30T04:58:51Z

Hey everyone-

I have done the master cleanse once for 8 days, and it was a great experience. I felt light, energetic, lost some weight and decided I definitely want to do it on a regular basis. So that's where I'm coming from for this post.

Then I chatted with my doc about it. She thinks that fasting every so often is a good idea in general, trusts alternative practitioners, and treats me with herbs, diet changes, etc. whenever possible. However, she had the following reservations about the master cleanse:

1- Cayenne pepper can be toxic at certain doses (she did not specify a dose). So be careful about your intake of it, especially if it's one of only 3-5 ingredients you are ingesting. (As she said, parsley can cause cancer in high enough doses. Just because it's "natural" or herbal does not mean it isn't powerful and potentially harmful in the wrong dose).

2- Protein intake is important. Since you are not taking in much if any protein on the master cleanse, your body will pull it from somewhere. That somewhere will be your internal organs and your muscles. She suggested that some sort of fast that incorporates protein shakes or something may be better. I know Burroughs addresses the protein thing, but medically speaking, I suspect he doesn't know what he's talking about. I don't believe he's a doctor. I also know that he wrote the book some time ago, and new nutritional information has since come to light.

I hate it when folks get on tribes just to be nay-sayers. But talking with her made me reconsider doing a straight master cleanse again, so I wanted to share this information with all of you. I think my next fast will be a combo of MC, fruit & veggie juices, and protein shakes. Of course, my doctor suggested I only fast under the care of an alternative practitioner who knows what they're doing.

Anecdotally, some of my friends have verified apparent loss of muscle mass, and have definitely had issues with the intake of so much sugar as the only calorie source. It's just so difficult to identify what is detox and what is a reaction to sugar, pepper, etc. Although it seemed to work well for me, I know the MC isn't for everyone. Now I'm wondering if there may be a better standard fast for most of us.

Be well!

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Couple questions

2008-03-17T11:45:35Z

Can anyone link me or explain what exactly the body does when it's fasting?
I love to fast. (only do it about once or twice a year) but it feels so good.
I notice a strange smell coming from my arm pits during these periods.

the thing is, I notice it right now.
I'm not fasting from food, but I have totally stopped smoking cannabis and it's been a few days.
I was smoking it every day for about 6 years.
and now...welll....I don't have much of an appetite, so I've been eating very little

and I'm wondering if my body is cleansing itself like a fast?
I know it's always at work
but that smell....
it smells like detox to me.

I know it's kind of a strange circumstance but I would appreciate any insight.

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Dark circles under eyes

2008-03-17T11:17:06Z

So does anyone have a definitive answer on what causes these and how to sucessfully eliminate them?

I have been battling them for years now, and where as I used to think it was because I smoke a lot of pot, I have learned that there is definitely another cause (I have friends who are MUCH bigger stoners than me and thier eyes are clear).

I know the standard get lots of sleep bit, but I am more interested what internally can be causing this. My latest research leads towards malnutrition, and possible B or C vitamin deficiency.

I have also read that almond oil topically can help, but again this is treating the symptoms vs. getting @ the cause.

Any ideas or info? :-)

Thanks!

_jason_

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fever

2008-03-08T23:03:01Z

I started the master cleanse yesterday (if anyone's familiar with it)
and I have a slight fever right now.
Is this common?

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Did you guys know that Jesus was a colon therapist

2008-01-18T17:36:31Z

One-quarter of what you eat keeps you alive.
The other three-quarters keeps your doctor alive.
(Hieroglyph found in an ancient Egyptian tomb.)

1 Corinthians 6:
13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for FORNICATION, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body. This MEATS is not Flesh.

CLEANING the INSIDES
MATTHEW 23
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

CLEANING the INSIDES
MARK 7
15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.

CLEANING the INSIDES
MARK 7
18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;

19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.

22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:

23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

39 And the Lord said unto him, Now do ye Pharisees make clean the outside of the cup and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and wickedness.

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14 day Lifefood Nutritional and Liver Cleanse Blog

2008-01-15T07:06:21Z

reposting my blog here so it can be of use to all us cleansers! if you respond here i may not answer, but if you message me personally on tribe as well, i'll get the message. thanks!

Aloha Friends and Family,

I am a Cleansing Superhero!

I am currently on day 10 of the Jubbs 14 day Lifefood Nutritional Fast. This is an intensive cleanse that I have done once before about 2 years ago full-length and one 5 day version last spring. This is a cellular rejuvenation cleanse focusing on the upstream. Upstream cleansing is above the diaphram (liver and gallbladder). It is important to get the liver and gallbladder, the main sewage plant cleared before trying to achieve a lasting colon cleanse. if you cleanse the colon first, it won't last because the toxified organs up the digestive stream just help to create more of the problem conditions in the colon.

The cleanse involves eating only Lifefood blended into soups, smoothies, drinks, and drinking some medicinal teas. Wearing castor oil packs on liver/gallbladder and ascending, transverse, and descending colon 2 times a day. Drinking apple cider vinegar 4 times a day. Eating powdered wildcrafted vital herbal formulas on slices of fruit (to activate them with parotid hormone in saliva for better digestion.) 3 days of liver/gallbladder flushing by drinking 4-6 oz of olive oil and 4 oz of lemon juice wtih coffee enema after.

I have been studying to become a certified Phoenix Fastician with Dr. David Jubb, PhD in new york and have been learning lots about this cleanse, the herbs, and how to read a person like a book in a health reading with cleanse and nutritional support. This is a True Healing Theraputic. There are many cleanses out there, but most miss the boat in some respect. Most don't look much to optimum nutrition during the cleanse and just offer suppliments to take. Most don't focus on the most important organ, the general, the most overworked and over toxified Liver. The Jubbs Cleanse takes care of all that. Because of the amazing nutrition, you are gently supported instead of stripped down like many cleanses like the Master Cleanse. If you're already in optimal health that might be ok, but most of us need the gentle support. It can be devistating to water fast or master cleanse to those with weakened immune systems.

So now that I've studied a bit with the Dr., it's amazing to see how much improvement is showing in my cleanse since last time. I feel like a rock star of cleansers! I've been able to be much more positive in my outlook, enjoying the cleanse much more. The hightened clarity i've received is such a gift. On the 5-day one i did last spring and definitly on this one, I am understanding my body's messages so quickly and clearly. The ones I'm getting big time are that my colon is sluggish and to never eat late at night. I ate late at night one night and paid for it with more outbreak of hives and feeling kind of groggy and slightly hungover. it all makes sense now. don't fill up your system with food and make it work while you're trying to rest at night! it's a total aggrivation to the system and makes symptoms worse!

I've also learned to fine-tune the cleanse with kundalini yoga, and sound healing with gong, tuning forks, & singing bowls. I'm also committing to percussion to the liver and gallbladder and massage of the gallbladder and colon. this was instrumental to a productive harvest of nasty little gall stones and some disgusting intestinal mucus. if you're brave and want to look at the pics, here's a link. www.flickr.com/photos/663...3715299990/

this cleanse has really offered me a chance to organize and discover the power of making all your own super nutrition food at home. with lifefood (raw food without hybrids like carrots, beets, bananas, corn, dates, legumes, grains) it's all about organization. i'm going to make cheat sheets to hang in the kitchen for things like timing of doses, reminders to soak nuts/seeds for milking, timing of cracker dehydration, etc. i'm so grateful to have found my new little hobbit healing temple. i have my own place wich means my own kitchen and bathroom. i have been wanting this for a while now so that i can do this cleansing and heal up old health issues. to my abounding health!

It's amazing how the body, mind, emotions, and spirit are linked! When I'm flushing out the stones and feeling kind of queezy all kind of crummy emotions come up. sometimes i will literally detox something out. last time i detoxed out the "wheel of fortune" theme song! it just looped over and over in my head till a shaman kitty came and massaged it out of my colon when i did the 5-day at Eden Hot Springs last summer. This time i have been working through feelings if incapability and insecurity as well as fear of death. also, on day 3, while feeling fiesty and superpowered, i received a call that brought an opportunity to test my spirituality, courage, and compassion. it all went well, i made a new friend, and helped to empower a sister going through a hard time! Jah works in gloriously mysterious ways always in perfect time!

all in all, the cleanse has been a wonderful boost to my energy, health, self-esteem, courage, discipline, willpower, flow and clarity of communication, inspiration, motivation, and intuition. I have realized that i am indeed making room for the light in my life by clearing out the toxins. all the emotions that are coming up represent the old me that clings (literally) to my insides making me sick. It's so refreshing to look in the toilet and poke around at my shit, literally and figuratively! Don't think for a second that all that crud coming out doesn't have an emotional, psychic, and spiritual component. the chinese know what they're talking about. supprisingly, i haven't dealt with too much anger this cleanse, wich is what the liver is connected with. some minor frustrations, that's all. i stand by my theory that it doesn't matter which comes first the chicken or the egg. that is to say, cleanse either your mind, emotions, spirit, physical body, and the rest will naturally catch the momentum of the first. just do it and get the ball rolling. gotta start somewhere!

if you have questions or would like to do this cleanse, please let me know. i am glad to be of service as i have time. it is good for me as a phoenix fastician in training to field some questions.

Learn more by buying these two books. the first is a recipe book with recipies for the cleanse that goes over an older version of the cleanse (still powerful and no buying of herb formulas.) the second is a scientific book with info on blood formation, cellular rejuvenation, powerful therapies nobody talks about, the underlying cause of dis-ease. it has an updated super-powered version of the cleanse.

www.amazon.com/LifeFood-R...pd_bbs_sr_1

www.amazon.com/Jubbs-Cell...pd_bbs_sr_2

Thanks for reading this long blog!

Love You!
Jaya Ellora Jah
www.jayalove.com

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Odwalla/Juice Fast & Colonix

2008-01-11T18:16:12Z

Juice fasting and wondering do you really need to buy a juicer and spend tonnns of $$ on organic veg. and fruit or can I just use Odwalla and Trader Joes organic juices? OOO and Y'all Should go to
DrNatura.com....awsome site, dont get tooo grossed out...colonix is working great

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Happy Holiday

2007-12-24T16:53:55Z

For a whole new year is coming again. And it brings new opportunities, new dreams, fun-filled new days may each of you have the best new year .

In Love and Light

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mucus plug

2007-12-05T17:11:20Z

so i read somewhere in a fasting book about loosing the mucus plug from your intestines. I am now on the master cleanse and wondering if you loose a mucus plug in this method. Or, can anyone tell me where i read about loosing the plug? the book had pictures and different versions of the cleanse. the author was a raw foodist and wrote a lot about he and his wife.
thanks

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why do inCARnations of Sri Krsna fast on sprouted grain berries & rejuvelac?

2007-10-22T20:59:45Z

that's the wae we run!

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Any liquidarians in here looking for a pen pal or net pal:)

2007-10-12T18:31:02Z

I have just headed out on my liquidarian journey here, very new, could use some support from others who have been on this road a little longer:)

I have michael werners book, I belong to one breatharian support group and another support group that supports my choices but I think I am the only one there who is liquidarian.

So I am feeling a bit lonely..lol

Sure could use a few liquidarian friends!

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master cleanse experience.........

2007-10-12T02:20:31Z

so last monday i started the master cleanse, my goal was 10 days. on day three i felt amazing, so much energy, so clear headed....then on day 4 and 5 things started going downhill...my emotions and thoghts were erratic and my stomach started hurting. by the fifth night i was super nauseaous, i could not even think about a lemon without wanting to wretch.........

so on day six i said forget this, and switched to juice....my goal was 10 days for the fast...but i don't know anymore...my body felt pretty messed up from that whole lemonade concoction....i am feeling way better now. i have been drinking apple juice and vegetable broth......maybe i will finish the 10 days, but am a little worried about my health given how sick that lemon stuff was making me.... do you think i should just break the fast entirely or stick it out with the juice???

what's even more strange, is that i have done the master cleanse before and never had this problem, but i do not think i will ever be doing it again, given my new aversion to lemons(;

anyone else ever had this type of experience?

amanda

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Belize Fasting Retreat

2007-09-23T05:26:54Z

VIDA CLARA
Two Week Fasting Retreat
January 23 - February 6, 2008
in the pristine tropics of Belize!
with
Dr. Robert Sniadach and Marcelle Muller, MA, MFT

The retreat begins with a water fast*,
followed by luscious tropical fruit and veggies.
Immerse yourself in the daily program of health education,
body awareness, meditation, and emotional healing.
After your fast, enjoy the amazing eco-tours of Belize,
or just bask in the healing power of nature.

*Please see http://www.vidaclara.com for more information

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A brave Man

2007-09-21T01:33:20Z

Aloha all God’s children the seekers of life.

Today the man has finished his treatment with flying colors. He came about 3 weeks ago with a bleeding rectum. It was so bad know other colon therapist would take him in. So after looking him over and seeing how much pain he was inn. I decided to take him on.

The first thing I did was teach his how to insert a piece of aloe in his rectum to stop the bleeding, to heal the tear in his prostate.

For the first 5 days, I had him fast and insert a piece of aloe after each bowl movement. And drink 12 oz. of this formula I have every morning and 4 oz’s every night before bed. This helped him with his bowl movement. At first it was a little painful. Then each day I had him come in and put on gloves and massage his prostate with aloe every 15 minute for an hour. Each day the pain was getting less. After 7 days of this he was ready for a special speculum I ordered just for men with swollen prostate.

When a person has this kind of condition and this kind of pain it is best for them if they insert the speculum, it’s less painful. And he did great. He was a trooper. I don’t believe a person has to suffer to be healed. He fasted for 2 more weeks, on the master cleanse, Psyllium, honey, colonic with a 150 minerals, elements, ions, electrolytes and love.

This is not a cure for prostate, just a story of a brave man who was not ready to die yet.

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Raw Food Festival Sedona AZ Oct. 12-14

2007-09-03T14:02:30Z

Just wanted to share information regarding the Raw Spirit Festival happening in Sedona, AZ next month. My family will be attending. Hope to see each of you there! Click on the link below for event details. Also, please forward this email to others who you think might be interested!

bhttp://www.rawspiritfest.com/idevaffiliate/idevaffiliate.php?id=331

Dishonne

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a coffee enema? So I can't drink it but i can ...

2007-08-31T19:53:09Z

USE IT FOR AN ENEMA? WTF?

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The food that is the foundation of our being is Minerals and Elements.

2007-08-11T03:53:30Z

Our LIFE force, or Being,
The food that is the foundation of our being is Minerals and Elements.

The blood that flows thru our veins is the fuel that gives us LIFE.

When the blood in our veins is perfect, the blood will take on the shape of a doenut and this doenut is full of oxygen, nurturance, and minerals and elements. When the doenut is out of shape the being is starving from the lack of these precious life giving elements.

When the blood is perfect, the immune system will take over and start healing the body, mind and soul.

Trace Minerals are the Foundation of Health

Chemical balance within the body is facilitated by the manipulation of minerals and elements. An abundant and replenished mineral nutritional supply is essential to excellent health. Always remember that the body can use minerals without vitamins, but it can’t use vitamins without minerals and elements. Minerals and elements are the solid foundation upon which all nutrition is built. As important as vitamins are, minerals and elements are even more important. Many vitamins and other complex chemicals needed by the body are actually manufactured within the body itself. The minerals and elements, however, which are the basic building blocks making up these complex substances, must be nutritionally present, or the system is lacking its essential ingredients. When this happens the body tries to live off the toxins.

The body has many systems to keep in balance for health. While minerals and elements do the majority of the heavy work, the trace minerals and elements can be compared with the small weights on a balance beam. These tiny weights, though small, are absolutely vital for achieving optimum health. When complex systems are being considered, it is the fine tuning that leads to optimal performance.

If the mucoid plaque is not cleaned out of our colons we are rob of our nurturance, minerals and elements. Our systems will just recycle the toxin that is trapped in the mucoid plaque. The toxins are like a poison that is robbing us of our God given life force.

This is what Dr. Leonard Smith, MD, of Florida had to say about toxicity in the body.
“Even if we lived in a pristine world with no chemicals, no pollution, pure water, and pure food, still, with the passage of time we would experience cellular toxicity.”
The very air we are breathing is full of toxins.

The liquid that flows thru our entire body and around very cell is the life force that feeds our cells and gives our body, mind and soul life.

The ocean in our cells is the same as the ocean of our Mother Earth.
The water inside our Earthly Mother is the same water as our Mother Earths womb.
We laid in this water for 9 months when we were conceived.
That is if our Earthly Mothers were eating healthy and living a clean life.

The ocean of our Mother Earth is pure Minerals and Elements. Even thou the ocean is as polluted as it is, it is steal cleaner then the blood of most humans.

On the BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS of seawater, when blood was not unavailable; Doctors would injected seawater in the veins of patients, who recovered on the seawater just as well as patients having had blood transfusions of plasma.
(Linda Clark).

In order to use the Ocean as a cleanser you MUST know how to collect, purify and filter it or you could have some serous problems. The water in our taps is full of all kinds of pollutant, like chemicals or lead acetate and has to be purified or it will end up causing us serous problems. I think there is only one plant in our universe that man has not polluted yet and that is because it is to hot to get to. (Sun)

By using the minerals and elements as a bowel cleaner to remove the mucoid plaque, not only will you be cleaning out the mucoid plaque from the colon, but at the same time will you be feeding your body with the minerals and elements and at the same time you are reviving your immune system.

Connected to your colon is these veins called portal veins. The pores in our colon are connected to the portal veins and these portal veins takes the minerals and elements straight to the liver and our liver then turns the minerals and elements into pure blood. ( Live foods = high-test, processed foods = unleaded) Our bodies are very fine tune machines.

The body needs good blood in order to work properly and to feel good and alive. When your blood is toxic the bowels become acidic and then the body becomes tired and sick. An acidic colon is a open door for disease.

In order for all this to work properly fasting is necessary. Until we let go of the world, the world will not let go of us. The mucus in our bodies is a must, the mucus is there to help the feces to pass thru the colon. But when this mucus becomes thick with toxins, it becomes so thick that it blocks us from getting our life giving oxygen, nurturance, and minerals and elements and becomes what is called mucoid plaque and then comes the body snatchers (parasites) come and suck more of our life force out of us.

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Recommended fasts for hypoglycemics?

2007-08-07T07:44:44Z

have any hypoglycemics here had success with a fast? i'm interested in detoxifying, but i'm a little scared of having a hypoglycemic episode as result.

i've done the master cleanse about a year ago with fine results, but before i was diagnosed hypoglycemic & had an episode.

thoughts & fasts recommended very helpful! ^_^

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fasting and menstruation

2007-07-11T18:17:04Z

I'm on my fifth day of the Master Cleanse (2nd time doing it) and I just got my period.
Is there a way to continue safely, or should I break the cleanse and try another time?
Anyone have any personal experince with this?
I'm also getting my usual cramps and really struggling with not being able to take some ibuprofen.

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1st Annual Mt. Shasta Living Foods Expo! Come to the Mystic Mountain!

2007-07-02T21:01:32Z

Aloha Tribsters!

My friend Shalomar is putting on this amazing first time ever event. Many amazing leaders in the raw foods movement will be there including the elusive Dr. David Jubb! You can check out the updated lineup at:

http://shalomarproductions.com/First%20Annual%20Living%20Food%20Expo%202007/livingfoodexpo2007.php

It will be held in the beautiful Mt. Shasta City Park where the crystal clean water comes right out of the mountain after 300 years of filtration through the mineralized earth!

Also, there will be 3 hour workshops for $25 each on Monday after the event by Viktoris Kulvinskas, Dr. David Jubb, the Tree of Life family, and Victoria Boutenko

I will be there providing a healing booth with massage, sound healing, and hypnotherapy!

Love,
Jaya

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The truth will set you free

2007-06-26T21:32:34Z

Aloha All children of my father.

If you know where Jesus did the healing of the multitudes, you will understand that when he talked about water in the essene gospel, you might realize he is truly talking about minerals and elements.

1 And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these sayings, he departed from Galilee, and came into the coasts of Judaea beyond Jordan; (the Dead Sea)

2 And great multitudes followed him; and he healed them there.

Sciences know that if we have a 150 minerals and elements as our foundation we are disease free.

Trace Minerals are the Foundation of Health
Chemical balance within the body is facilitated by the manipulation of minerals. An abundant and replenished mineral nutritional supply is essential to excellent health. Always remember that the body can use minerals without vitamins, but it can’t use vitamins without minerals. Minerals are the solid foundation upon which all nutrition is built. As important as vitamins are, minerals are even more important. Many vitamins and other complex chemicals needed by the body are actually manufactured within the body itself. The minerals, however, which are the basic building blocks making up these complex substances, must be nutritionally present, or the system is lacking its essential ingredients. Poison
The body has many systems to keep in balance for health. While minerals do the majority of the heavy work, the trace minerals can be compared with the small weights on a balance beam. These tiny weights, though small, are absolutely vital for achieving optimum health. When complex systems are being considered, it is the fine tuning that leads to optimal performance.

The Dead Sea is where Jesus healed the multitudes, if all he had to do is point or say and you are healed, then why did he go there to heal them.

The rest is up to you.

Pila.

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fasting question

2007-05-11T22:23:02Z

I woke up Sunday morning with the stomach flu. I am still feeling the symptoms and am not too interested in eating. I was thinking about fasting as soon as the flu symptoms are over, to clean out my system. Is this a good idea or should I wait?

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ZsaZsa's Liquid Diet, tell me what you think, nix the criticism

2007-04-15T14:12:27Z

Hello all. Just got reaquianted with Tribe and very happy that I did. A little about me. I'm 22 and have been struggling with my weight since pre-pruberty. Been yo-yoing just about as long. I was able to get down to a healthy weight once in my life, and I'm looking to do it again. I have about 30 lbs to lose. Here's my liquid diet plan that I came up with based off of what I've learned in the past about my body's chemical reactions and my current low income.

Morning: 4 oz. Fruit smoothy diluted w/ 8oz. water
Mid-Morn: 8 oz. V8 w/ 1 tbls. flaxseed oil & 8oz. water
Lunch: 1 serv. whey protein mix w/ 8oz. water
Mid-Day: 8 oz. V8 w/ 1tbls. flaxseed oil & 8 oz. water
Dinner: 1 serv. whey protein mix w/ 8 oz. water

Along with the reg vitamins, Ultimate Metabolic Fat Burner & Guggul

I'm not looking for critizism or any costly ideas, but a positive opinion or some helpful advice would be nice. Thanks all and great to meet ya!

~ZsaZsa

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Recovery from the meningococcal meningitis and sepsis using therapeutic fasting and Complimentary and Alternative Medicine

2007-02-18T09:29:56Z

http://www.fastingconnection.com/incredible-cures.html

A History Of My Illness (English version)
I am the author and originator of a unique and powerful medication free neuro-
rehabilitation method (“Recovery Integral Training Adaptation Method") using therapeutic fasting and Complimentary and Alternative Medicine (CAM) This method is particularly effective for people who have suffered cerebral brain injuries and inflammation of the brain.
My forthcoming book, "My system of health or 25 Years Without Medication" (available early 2007) is a detailed account of how I made a full recovery from the most virulent strain of bacterial meningitis using my neurorehabilitation method. vld707@list.ru

I would like to share my story of success about my 24 day water fast while suffering from meningococcal meningitis plus meningococcemia (sepsis). In my book; “Incurable Diseases and Alternative Medicine". Phoenix Publishing House, (or in Russian; Rostov-on-the-Don, Russia, 2006) I give a detailed account of how I treated and cured myself some twenty-five years ago.

http://www.fenixrostov.ru/topics/book/?id=O0028643

In the winter of 1980 when I studied in Residency at Kursk Medical College on the general therapy of internal diseases, I gradually developed bad headaches which plagued me throughout the whole month, and I was also struck by a chronic cold. I did not grasp the cause of my ailments and started an exercise routine- mostly jogging-as an attempt to boost my immune system the natural way. However a few days later, I was sent to hospital with an ominous fever of 40c!

Initially I was admitted to hospital after consulting the attending doctor, even though the cause for my sickness was still unknown. By this stage I also had a fit of vomiting. Before nightfall I had an intuition that, I may have contracted meningitis! And how right I was!

Almost two days went by before doctors were able to confirm my own diagnosis. (At first they thought I had gone mad!) Drifting in and out of consciousness I was in no state to discuss my condition with them even though I tried.

On one fine day-after five days of unconsciousness- I awoke with a sensation of unimaginable ease in my body. A sensation which I had previously never experienced. "Have I returned alive?" Was the first though that passed through my mind on this day in Early February 1980.

It was only the beginning of what was to be a relentless battle of body and spirit. At the time it had not yet been established that the meningitis had caused oedema on the brain. The day before my birthday my joints had swollen and became crimson: both talocrural and wrist, and joints on two fingers on the left hand were also affected. In the morning my body temperature was 37.5 C, and by the evening it had gone up to 39 C. For most of the night I felt drowsy and slept for only two to three hours due to the septic temperature (a septic polyarthritis).

Because of strong pains in the wrist joints I could not wash independently without help, and had to use my torso to manoeuvre the rest of me out of bed and on to the floor. The spinal lumbar punctures (they were seven in all during my illness)added to my misery as for almost 2 weeks I was not able to bend my waist as a nerve had been touched. Any attempt to bend led to piercing pains in my right leg. The lumbar punctures were a necessary evil as the doctors could only establish from an extraction of spinal fluid the true nature of the infection. Once this sample was analysed the doctor informed me that he now knew how to proceed with the correct treatment.

The next spinal puncture appeared to be unsuccessful, although this was not a first. "I have worked for 18 years and it is the second case in my practice!" Exclaimed the neuropathologist. At that moment I went cold, and my legs began to shiver. Let's try again tomorrow on a couch, because of pains in my back, I said. Next day a nurse technician helped me to bend my back on a firm couch and, at last, after the jab, have received the long-awaited spinal fluid.
My attending physician admitted to the consultant that he has never had to treat someone with a purulent bacterial meningitis. And because of his lack of experience he did not diagnose the sepsis, and that is why he continually asked, why I had such a fever and skin haemorrhage. The answer could be seen clearly from my crimson joints: As a result of this incompetence, I feared I would end up with gangrene on my left hand fingers! Listen carefully all you professionals! If I am still alive it is most probably down to the following reasons: 1) I had a young organism and in the past followed a regular fitness regime. 2) At the treating doctor's home his wife was a doctor too, who was constantly kept up to date regarding my treatment, 3) Huge desire to live.

I clenched my teeth and refused additional pain killers. These were in the form of injections which were kindly prescribed by my doctor. He was surprised, and wanted to know why I declined the offer. I told the doctor that I have already received eight injections of penicillin! on 3 million units a day intramuscularly, and a Dimedrol with Analginum. I was forced to request pain killers only at night so that I could sleep. The heat was so intense and intolerable. My buttocks were already swollen from all the injections, so there was no option but to suffer.

My diagnosis sounded like a verdict: The residual phenomena meningococcal infections (meningitis and a sepsis) with the raised craniocereberal pressure, extrapyramidal disturbances (defeat subcrustal ganglia substances of a brain due to encephalitis) and fatigue syndrome.

Translated into ordinary language, it would mean: Constant headaches day and night which made me climb up the wall, 4 hours of hallucinations late at night, and awaking early with shaky legs, dizziness, weakness in the right hand and a leg. These symptoms increased with the change of weather, and I also experienced a constant tremor of head and painful spasms in leg muscles, decrease in memory and concentration, fatigue and emotional imbalance in the form of vulnerability, despondency's, depression, etc.

I gradually got back on my feet after my consciousness adapted to these new conditions of existence. It took three full months to fully understand this. At the time I did not know the extent of my brain damage, but the impairment of my cognitive and emotional functions was widespread. Having plenty of time to reflect on the above situation, I tried hard to find myself. Most involuntary body functions continued to work perfectly after I had the hypo-stasis of a brain. However, I also experienced a big change in my perception: It seemed to me that the whole world had grown dull and the sensation of being alive was all but lost. Despite of this, in my mind I did not succumb to the desire to surrender to this inevitable vicissitude of life.

My speech was in no way impaired, and although I could read, the word meaning (semantics) was at times absent. It was necessary to re-read a text several times over in order to grasp the meaning. As for the type face, there were some curved lines which simply did not register, and I often skipped lines too; so it became a necessary task to correct these idiosyncrasies, which was in itself quite exhausting! Although my sight and hearing did not suffer, my ears were strained, especially during barometric changes where it became difficult to understand some spoken words.

To write using a pen was a problem as the hand would simply not obey. The usual pen reminded me of a piece of a stiff piece of wood which was difficult to hold. This made the task of writing a difficult process. I knew when it was about to rain, because my right hand weakened, and the right leg stumbled a
little. There were times when I walked along the street stumbling about like a drunkard. Co-ordination of my limbs was impaired to such a degree that my neighbours and elderly folk were left perplexed.

Sometimes I did not want to watch TV programs due to severe headaches also I did not know, what to do to reduce that pain in my head. Sometimes I felt that my brain was malfunctioning and I got panic attacks from this. Reading was the only thing which offered an occasional respite from this inner turmoil.
There was no peace in the afternoon, or at night, as sleep and pain killers, did not facilitate the condition, or strengthen the weakness. It seemed as though life had lost its sense. It was very enduring test and quite seriously dampened my spirits, causing a sense of fear and a hopelessness and self pity. “Why did this happen to me and will I ever be normal?” Was a recurring question. Any spark of hope was only short lived, as I was clinging to life with a sense of apathy and powerlessness. And this plunged me even deeper into the precipice of despair. My Soul was hurting and this pain cannot be compared to a physical pain! The only way this pain can be grasped is to actually experience it for oneself.

My long term memory was not affected, but I could not recall the last names of many actors.

There were instances when my brain disconnected for some seconds, losing the sense of what I was doing. I realised the sad future ahead of me when even the meaning of well assimilated words was lost! Doctors felt sorry for me, but were powerless, as in the textbooks on neurology it is specified, that only drugs can be of benefit in restoring one's health. I attended the outpatient clinic for four months where I received medication by way of injections which were a heavy burden on the liver. After this I was forced to go for various state Medical examinations for assessing my level of disability. I was offered 3 groups of physical disability status, but I turned them down! “And you will not deceive us and recover?” asked the disability medical examiners at my local office. On the contrary, I had made a firm resolution to make a full recovery. Half a dozen doctor-neurologist examined me, non of them were able to say if I could make a recovery of if I would be able to work again.

The main obstacle to restoring my health was the absence of knowledge on the complex rehabilitation procedures of patients with neuroinfection, so there were only limited practical recommendations that were given. I also required psychological support to get rid of the complexes created by my illness, at least giving me a glimmer of hope, which even the doctors looking after me did not have.

During this period a new solution arrived square on my lap in the form of a book. A doctor from the outpatient clinic where I was receiving treatment presented me with the first edition of "Fasting for the sake of health" by Professor Nikolaev. The doctor stretched out his arm handing me the book and said, "Volodya! it should help you!"

In honesty, I had nothing to lose, and I was ready to try something radically different. I was not even frightened at the prospect of dying from fasting as in the book it went into detail about the successes that had been achieved with curing so called "incurable" diseases,even though there was nothing on my particular disease, and the more so about a regenerative diet there existed, and only I have found the description of this diet and pair examples of treatment in proceedings of regional library after traumas of a brain, stroke.

When commenced the fast, my mum- the doctor physician with over 40-years experience and a Second World War veteran, did not begin to dissuade me but was very fearful that I could die from it. But when he witnessed the first positive results two weeks into my fast he calmed down.

In that hot summer of 1980, during the 24 day therapeutic water fast I lost at total of 16 kg, but the co-ordination of body movements was restored, the liver functions improved and consequently my complexion returned, and most importantly was the belief in my ability to make a full recovery! I was not able to bring myself to tell the truth to the attending neuropathologist why I had grown so very thin. I stretched the truth and explained that I was on a forced diet due to a poor appetite.(At that time alternative methods of treatment and fasting was regarded by most doctors as wild. And those who applied these "fringe" methods on oneself where considered to be totally insane). I shall not tire the reader with intricate details of my dietary techniques and hunger cure (water fasting) as there is plenty of available literature on these subjects, and you can also read my book on alternative medicine. I can mention however, that the effects form this long fast such as: an obvious acidosis crisis, thirst and dizziness did not interfere with the fast as they did not occur , as much of my time was spent breathing fresh air, going on long walks, having enemas and by drinking plenty of boiled water and broth of boiled Dogrose which helped clear my intestines and I also took many warm baths. The baths served to relax and to detox the skin and kidneys.

My fast ended after 24 days although I had planned for it to go on 25 days. I ended it earlier due to leg spasms which were due to neural imbalances caused by meningitis rather than the fast. At the time I did not know how to prevent them, and prior to the 24 day water fast, I did not purify the body on a vegetarian diet. So undoubtedly, my liver was overburdened with toxins waste from medications, so a word of caution, don't repeat the same mistakes!

My chronic bronchitis which I suffered from for ten years has now ceased, and my regenerative period has passed by smoothly on vegetable and fruit juices, porridge (no added salt,sugar or animal proteins)

I was broken physically but not spiritually. It was virtually impossible to find books on alternative health at the time but my intuition guided me back to good health. For eleven months I visited of the outpatient clinic and I had enough time to rethink the past and to search for new ways of healing.

I loved my work as a medical doctor and in January, 1981 I began work at a city therapeutic hospital as a physician. After long hours at work, I was so tired that there was little physical or spiritual energy left continue with my daily houselhod routines. Even getting up from the couch was hard work. My organism was flat, but it was still necessary to continue with my research. Months passed by and my health improved very slowly. I knew that my slow recovery and lack of energy was due to the meningitis and this really frustrated me.

In October-1984 I was offered a new position - Chief of medical department in the 60 bed therapeutic branch. By that time, my health had improved by 50% but was not trustworthy enough to hold down this new position. (at the time I was age 32) My former head physician told to me that if you undermine your weak state of health by taking up this new position, you may irreversibly damage your health. But I was lucky because my dream to be a chief of a medical department came true and I was able to restore my health and rebuild my life through my career. No one was able to understand at the time how significant that was for me.

My professional growth moved forward quickly as I tried to make up for lost time. Frequent improvements of my professional skill and constant self-education have served to deepen my knowledge on many specialities - my field of expertise was on general therapy. This new professional life style did not permit me to follow the advice and words of caution given to me by my neurologists, as I was constantly under stress. However, I managed to carry out the student's dream - become chief of branch and a qualified doctor, despite of all the odds!

During my illness I consumed a large quantity of medications, and the colour of my face bared witness to this. On one fine day I made a firm resolve not to take any more medication whatsoever, because I could end up with cirrhosis of the liver. As a medical doctor I clearly understood that taking too much medication could be dangerous for the body, especially the liver. I did not have any other symptoms as a result of the toxic side effects of medications. However, I never took a blood test for evaluating the state of health of my liver during my illness, but I did check my thyroid gland because my head was affected – that was fine. I suppose I did not get toxic hepatitis, I did not experience any pain in my liver either. On the other hand, I did suffer from stopping the drugs I was on to normalise my sleep. The symptoms were, leg spasms, trembling and a poor sense of balance. In order to purge the body and liver, I replaced the medications with a regime of hot baths. These were done daily for a period of 20 minutes, and caused profuse sweating. Straight after the bath I put on some warm clothes and laid down in bed for 40 minutes to continue sweating out the toxins. This caused leg spasms and shivering. After this I went to work. In this way I successfully cleansed my body and to this day have refused to take any medications. I also achieved my dream of improving my health and benefiting from a new vigourous life.

In 1986 I learned to run again, having begun with 15 minute runs, working my way up to one hour sessions. It was not easy. I stopped only when my pulse reached 120-140 beats a minute. For some months I experienced annoying twitching sensations and muscle cramps in my legs, but with a great deal of persistence I continued to train.

Twenty five years passed and much has changed in my life; I have visited America; began to practice homeopathy and other methods of the Naturopathy, and developed my own system of health improvement. I look younger than my age, I still work long hours continuing with my alternative health research and write books. The greatest victory however, remains the victory of choosing and fighting for the road to life over illness and perhaps even death. This remains in the forefront of my mind and helps me overcome all life difficulties. The 'real' medicine for me over and above the work I love, is the condition of my soul.

The love for all life and aspiration to help others to achieve the impossible. In this case being able to understand and accept deep seated feelings and conditions of feebleness and wretchedness is the medicine which enabled me to summon all my inner resources in accordance with Natural Law. This influenced my health on a physical level thus playing a significant and secondary role in getting me back on the road to good health. My Book “A prayer of survival” is a homage to the virtues of Patience, Gratitude, Trust and the will to live.
http://www.fastingconnection.com/index.php?option=com_gallerypage&Itemid=10

http://www.fastingconnection.com/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=userProfile&user=106

http://www.fastingconnection.com/vlad.html

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Fasting and taking vitamins..

2007-02-06T05:18:01Z

I'm plannng on doing my first fast or a cleanse real soon. I take a multivitamin everyday. Would I still be able to take the vitamin or does that not make any sense? I'm just a little confused. Thx!

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First water fast

2007-01-02T02:26:14Z

I started to prepare myself over the past few days; I've been day- fasting since the solstice and today I have commenced my first water fast; as of yet, I am unsure of how long this will continue for, but I am hoping my willpower will at least get me through the next few days...
I don't really know what to expect, I just know I need to cleanse, heal and reconnect...

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HELP! Constipation

2006-12-23T04:27:17Z

Not sure what the hell is going on in my body. I have been eating 80% raw for the past 2 months , no meat, no dairy, rarely any grains and not a large maount of fruit. First I kept getting these horrible pressures inside my head an now i cannot S_H_I_T! It sucks, really. I have drank epsom salts, psylium husks, coconut water, magnesium, lemon water.. allin the same day and nothing. I am a frim beleiver in colonics and enemas but I do not want to rely on them.. Anyone have any ideas or diagnoses?

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Fasting for 40 days and 40 nights

2006-12-08T05:53:06Z

40 Days 40 Nights

My father and I have been fasting (WATER ONLY) for 37 days so far, we made a website ( www.40days40nights.org ) to let people know how we were progressing.

I'm really looking forward to eating again! We are going to be complete vegetarians (no dairy).

We'd love to answer any questions anyone had on fasting, feel free to leave us some comments :)

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!st Time Master Cleanser

2006-12-07T16:54:15Z

Hello everyone - I just jioned the MC tribe and had some questions that I hope to get some answers to. I am currently on the 6th day of my cleanse.

1. On the second day, I woke up with pain and soreness in my solar plexes region. I did the salt water flush hoping that would help. Probably about 15 to 20 minutes after I vomited the salt water out. In the next two hours the pain got very severe and I was crouched in a fetal position moaning. It felt exactly like a gall stone attack (I know this because I have had gallstone attacks before). I had my gall bladder removed by surgery 14 years ago. In about 3 hours the pain subsided and I just slept and slept. I continued with the MC protocol. Can someone please let me know why I might have had this severe reaction? Has anyone else experienced anything like this while on the MC?

2. Yesterday, (Day 5) I was so cold. I did some research online and found out that people who are blood type O tend to have poor clirculation (I can vouch for this since I am blood type O) and their body temperature may drop. To counter this one can increase the amount of cayenne pepper and even use it topically, specially on the feet. Funny thing, I intuitively had increased the amount of cayenne pepper this morning and then read the online article later). My question is regarding using the cayenne pepper topically. Has anyone does this? If so do you have to make it into a paste with water or something?

3. Lastly, I just also found out that it is a good idea to rinse your mouth after drinking the "lemonade" since the citric acid and ascorbic acid can hurt the enamel of your teeth. Apparently citric acid and ascorbic acid binds with the calcium turning it into calcium citrate and calcium ascorbate - FYI - The link is below:
www.elsonhaas.com/articles/...le_05.html

Thanks for all your help,
Imrana

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I'm doing it!

2006-10-06T18:24:09Z

So today I have started the Master Cleanse.

People always say there is a point where feeling sick and sluggish and overweight just becomes too much! Well, yesterday was that day for me. It came on all of a sudden and in a flash I was ready to begin a new life. Where health and being in control of my body was more important than chocolate or mashed potatoes.......or even McDonalds!

Many people think fasting is not good for you and I’m sure that on some levels it is not. BUT, I truly feel the only way for me to begin new is to clear my body of all the unwanted bullshit I’ve been filling it with for the past 30 years. And I’m sure that fasting has got to be better for me than continuing down the path I was on.

For me, this is not about weight or trying to be thin. I feel pretty comfortable in my skin and think I am a very sexy woman. The thing is I don't feel healthy!

As many of you know, my entire world as I knew fell apart in December of this year, and it will not be surprising to anyone that I also got VERY sick that month. I had a very high temperature and a horrible hacking cough. It is now may and I still have that cough! I have taken antibiotics and still it remains. Also I have been dealing with a terrible case of Eczema on my right foot and left hand for about 6 months. Something I have never had a problem with in the past. And last month I began my menstrual cycle and it continued for almost 5 weeks! Till my gyno put me on the pill to make it stop. My body is crying out!! And it's time I listen.

The past year has been very hard for me emotionally and I am sure that I am carrying all the hurt and pain inside my body. What I am hoping to do is flush out all of the unwanted waste and toxins that have been building up and then after the cleanse begin a new. A clean slate. I am going to try a vegetarian diet and possibly add in some fish. I want a clean and healthy body and I am determined to get one.

I am also beginning to do yoga. I have not REALLY been moving my body in a long time. So I am taking baby steps. Yoga feels like the perfect place to start!

For those of you who do not know what the Master Cleanse is, it is a basically a fast. The only thing I will be consuming will be a mixture of water, fresh squeezed organic lemon juice, grade B maple syrup and cayenne pepper. I am planning on doing the fast for 14 days and hope that I can make it that far. Any and all support would be greatly appreciated!! Thoughts, prayers, wishes, phone calls......anything!

I have felt out of control of my life in many ways for a very long time and today I am going to start with my health. Because without it I have nothing!

Thank you to this entire community for being such a beautiful example of healthy living. You have all been my motivation and have truly helped me see a deeper side of myself.

Time to make lemons into lemonade!

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www.greenrootunderground.stirsite.com

2006-08-28T16:57:35Z

Hi, this is Sy (Yorick on tribe) I sell a protein mix (by the lb.) of spirulina, green superfood, hemp seed powder, msm, red lightning, and others in one shake mix. I also sell a colon cleansing blend that I formulated made up of pharmaceutical grade bentonite clay, slippery elm, marshmallow root, ginger root, peppermint, activated willow charcoal, and others. I sell great books, hemp powder, hemp bags from Ecolution, vegan belts, Source of Life Daily Blast, green tea extract, raw revolution bars, msm supplements, really raw and manuka UMF Honey, E3Live, Green Vibrance, Red Lightning, pH Kits, dvd's, angstrom minerals, raw peeled cacao nibs (raw organic chocolate chunks). I sell the best juicer on the market and the best juicing book.

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Planning on fasting for the first time, any advice?

2006-08-27T23:03:54Z

I am planning on a 3 day apple fast starting tomorrow, how should I ease out of it on the 4th day? Any advice at all would really be appreciated!

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willingly fall deeper into one experience...expand....new tribe

2006-08-01T03:06:24Z

breathing. expanding. exploring. experimenting. wallowing in your REALity. LIVING in this existance. in this body. in this I AM.......LOVEairIam...... http://tribes.tribe.net/loveairiam

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starting a fast

2006-07-17T15:56:17Z

I have a question for ye experienced fasters: when do you normally begin a fast?
First thing in the morning? So your last meal is the night before, or do you eat breakfast and that's your last meal? Does it make a difference?

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Raw Fitness

2006-07-15T15:03:25Z

Raw Fitness is a fitness forum for Raw Vegans and was created for the Raw Vegan that knows the importants of intergrating both active & raw lifestyles together. Also to provide Raw Vegans with the opportunity to develope their spiritual, personal growth and fitness related goals.

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Juice fast journal

2006-05-11T15:36:25Z

DAY 1

So, I started my 5-day juice fast today. I have done an 8 day Master Cleanse fast about 3 months ago, and that was the first. I'm trying something mew this time, partially because my dr. scared me by saying that I should try to get some sort of protein.

I have to say that getting to have variety is great, especially when I want something that is not sweet, so I have veggie juice. However, getting the juicer out, washing the produce and juicing it, then cleaning the juicer makes it so that I don’t have all this extra time like I did with the master cleanse. The beauty of MC is the simplicity.

Anyway, today I have had (all organic and fresh juiced except the soy):
8oz mixed veggie juice (carrot, celery, broccoli, asparagus, ginger, lemon)
8oz oj
8 oz grapefruit juice w/lemon juice
6 oz veggie juice (red bell pepper, celery, carrot, red chard, garlic, scallion, spinach, lime)
8oz MC lemonade (double the citrus, 2/3 the syrup)
8 oz fruit smoothie (pineapple, mango, berres, lemon, banana, ginger)
4 oz unsweetened organic soymilk
¼ of a bottled almond vanilla soy protein shake (Odwalla).
a few glasses water

Lots of variety. I also bought some milk thistle in liquid form, and had a dose of that. It’s supposed to help with liver detox.

I read from some sources that protein will inhibit colon cleansing, but I have read elsewhere that it helps with liver detox. My doctor made me nervous, so I am intaking some protein.

I figure I’ve had around16 grams of protein today- still far below the needed 50- but more than one would get on the MC. I estimate (with help from calorie counters- I love the internet!) that I’ve taken in about 925 calories today. On the master cleanse, I averaged around 700.

I felt great in the morning, and the juice totally got rid of my morning hunger. But in the afternoon, I started to feel sick and weak (and a little hungry). I went shopping and stocked up on organic produce (which was expensive with no Farmer’s markets open today). All the goodies at whole foods were tempting, but only slightly. Then I had the grapefruit juice, which was supper yummy, but it made my tummy hurt. I took an hour nap, then I felt better. Drank some protein shake, and went for an hour and a half walk. While my head felt a little out of it, my body really liked the walk. (I walked to the beach, down the boardwalk and through a nice neighborhood on the edge of Santa Monica. Yay!) I haven’t watched tv all day, as I know that the food ads made things rough for me on the MC. Plus- I consider this a week of detox in as many ways as possible- including psychic detox.

Anyway, if anyone has thoughts, suggestions or feedback, I'd appreciate it.

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fasting and anemia?

2006-04-30T09:57:24Z

hello,

i am vegan, and have had have an iron-deficidency/anemia. i cannot take supplements because they mess up my digestive system. usually i have things more or less under control but recently i have felt the symptoms like fatigue and dizzyness.

i was planning on going on a fast of fruit and vegetable juices for a few dayz but am worried that this will make things worse if i am in fact suffering from a lack of iron.

any sugesstions?

a.

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FIRST TIME IN 5 YEARS PAIN FREE BECAUSE OF FASTING!

2006-04-28T09:13:53Z

i am freaking out! like happy freaking out! i just started on this as a last resort because convetional medical practices failed me and i wanted to try EVERYTHING before i let them cut into my body and charge me rediculous amounts of cash.

anyway...we have had bad bad weather rolling through these past few days...NO HEADACHES..NO WRIST PAIN...NO KNEE PAIN>>>>>

now i am super excited because before the pain was so bad that i couldnt work.
i couldnt even exist. even on script pain meds i would hurt so badly water would come out of my eyes...just to sit there...and to use the painful joints took the breath from me. and i can handle pain. so i wasnt being a sissy. my joints would swell and get hot and red sometimes. my headaches....gave me such dark circles it looked like halloween make-up and it hurt to hear myself breathe.
now i can go look for work and start school again. LIFE BEGINS AGAIN>....YEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

and i still cant get over the fact is all it took was some clean water and not eating.
or some lemonade and not eating......if it didnt happen to me...i wouldnt believe it to be told by anyone else either.

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Transitioning out of a fast -- tips, set-backs, wisdom to share?

2006-04-27T19:07:35Z

Just one week ago, I completed a 40 day juice fast. I felt SO fantastic during the fast, and I knew the transitioning out period would be difficult, but I hadn't anticipated that being on spring break, without a set schedule, would leave me so vulnerable to "grazing" at inappropriate times. I ended up eating too much too soon, and am still paying for it with some general discomfort. On the advice of a veteran faster friend, I'm now doing a few more days on just broth, juice, and tea, to get rid of the bloat and help my body find its happy medium a bit more gently! Do any of you have any advice for how to deal with the many aspects (physical, psychological, spiritual) of feeling "let down" after a fast, and how to negotiate the transition back into real-life eating without losing one's health gains? Please share!

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True North Health Promoting: Water Fast?

2006-04-27T17:36:52Z

I've heard nothing but good things about going to True North for doing a water fast. Does anyone have any information to share with me about this facility? Any bad experiences to tell me about? I have Lupus (SLE) and heard of positive results for treating Lupus with a water fast.

In case you haven't heard of it and want more info...
www.healthpromoting.com

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New member...water fast

2006-03-31T20:41:06Z

Hi everyone.I'm going to be starting my first water fast tommorow.Anyone have any tips?Also how long can I safely go on water alone?

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New member, first fast....

2006-03-31T16:05:54Z

Hi, I'm a new Triber and a virgin faster and looking for some advice on approaches to my fast. I'm heading into it with three days off work to start and then I'll be back into the groove for a few days, but I'm hoping that by then I'll be well on my way and past the initial struggle (not that it stops there, I would imagine...)
Open to anything from those more experienced....
Thanks,
Sarah

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starting a fast today

2006-03-13T16:45:53Z

This is my first time fasting while also trying to deal with normal life (working, exercising, socializing). I hope that I don't feel too awful, but know that I have plenty to work out over the next 10 days. During past fasts I've been very 'in my head' and ultra-hypersensitive, plus headachy and fatigued (until the bliss kicks in).

Any suggestions for coping with everyday life while fasting would be appreciated :)

-Lauren

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Starting the Dr. Jubb 14-day Lifefood Nutritional Fast with Liver/Gallbladder Flushes!

2006-03-09T02:34:24Z

Aloha Healthy Tribesters,
I am starting the Dr. Jubb liver cleanse tomorrow. I'll be checking in periodically to update and ask for support. This is an intense one:
14 days blended and juiced Lifefood soups and drinks,
Lots of super powerful cleansing herbs for blood, inner cellular, digestion, cleansing pathways, yeast, hard core but supportive!
Castor oil packs with percussion
Coffee enemas
3 liver/gall bladder flushes.

I had a personal health consult with Dr. Jubb where he intuitively scanned me, did iridology, pressed on my fingernails, looked at my tongue, did pulse analysis, and poked me in the intestine where I'm swollen, he said. Then he asked many questions. This man has the high biological knowledge. I fee like I'm in good hands - at the end of a 5 1/2 year journey back to health. I have been battling with a nasty case of chronic hives, liver toxicity, low electrolites, and candida since August of 2000!

Please send prayers, good vibes, or whatever you do. I will totally appreciate it and need all the help I can get! I'm ready to radiate clear-channel vitality and beautiful skin!

Thank you!
Sat Nam, Nameste, Inlakesh,
Jaya

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best online fasting resource

2006-02-25T04:07:06Z

This is by far the best Fasting resource I have seen on the net so far:
http://www.freedomyou.com/level%202/Fasting%20Page%20Guide.htm

Don't let the religious slant put you off.
If you're not Christian, I would suggest that you substitute your own spiritual terminology for the Christian stuff -- as the rest of the info is very accurate and valuable, and the spiritual intentions are all good.

As with all health info though, I would recommend not relying on this exclusively. It's a good idea to round out your knowledge with several sources.

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my Spring Fast log

2006-02-25T03:56:17Z

Some of you may remember I kept a log of my last fast here:
http://vancouver.tribe.net/thread/6ecb84bc-5b04-4e9a-9881-7d25884d731b?tribeid=f4082fd9-0f7c-4de1-81ce-029258d3acc7&r=10372

I’ve just started another fast, so here’s my latest log! Feel free to chime in with comments or questions.

Pre-Fast
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I’ve been fasting about twice a year for several years now, and I’ve settled comfortably into a method that works for me. I always do a juice fast and aim for 8 to 10 days.

The things that tend to vary is how I lead up to it, how I break it, and the level of physical activity I do.

I’ve unintentionally changed my regular diet recently to be very simple: mostly small amounts of whole grains (brown rice, millet, quinoa or buckwheat), whole grain crisp bread, and mostly raw vegetables and lightly cooked sea vegetables. For seasonings I use essential oils, tamari and sea salt.

I’ve definitely strayed from the above now and then, but that’s basically been my staple. So I feel really good about my pre-fast state right now.

This time, I want to try to continue exercising regularly. I’ve been really dedicated to a weight training schedule lately, and I’m afraid to lose momentum. Now, weight training during a fast is stupid and counter-productive, so I think I will just change the type of activity, while keeping my usual exercise schedule. I plan on taking my usual weight training time to do some yoga and light cardio or take walks instead.

I’m also exploring more supplements in the form of herbs to spur on the cleansing process. I’ve found some great tea blends at my local health food store that I will try.

I’m already trying to mentally prepare for how I break my fast. That’s always been the hardest part for me, as I tend to too quickly jump right into my regular eating routine again.

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sweet and sugar-free

2006-02-11T17:40:49Z

Hello All. I wanted to invite you to join a tribe i created for sweet, sugar-free living. If this is something you are interested in or would like to contribute your questions, recipes, comments or ideas to, please join. This is an important topic for its health implications as well as the wider national-social issue it presents. namaste.

http://tribes.tribe.net/lifeissweet?_click_path=Application%5Btribe%5D.Tribe%5Bc24fc9bc-f43b-42ae-9cd6-4983151ef104%5D

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Looking for Recommendations

2006-01-16T21:20:38Z

I'm a 5 ft 9inch 145lb thin vegan male. I've done water fasts in the past of no more than a day. I would like to do a longer fast or a cleanse of some kind, but I want to make sure it will work with my body type. I was thinking about the master cleanse. I'm concerned about losing too much weight. What do you think? Any recommendations?

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New Tribe for Raw Chefs

2006-01-04T15:33:56Z

To connect Raw Chefs for recipes, ideas, advice and tips!
http://tribes.tribe.net/rawchefs

Hope to see you there!

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when coming off a fast... the fruitarian diet

2005-12-29T18:59:31Z

when coming off a fast... the fruitarian diet

http://fruitarians.blogspot.com

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coconut juice fast

2005-12-16T20:12:34Z

Hi,

I'm currently fasting using coconut juice and was wondering if anyone else has fasted using just coconuts? I've been doing a combination fruit/veggie juice, coconut juice, water with blue green alage and some teas.

Does anyone know if I'll be getting enough nutrients if I start just using coconut. I've done the master cleanse and thought about mixing that in, but I'm not that fond of the lemonade.

Thanks!

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Pooping Air: Five Easy Solutions

2005-12-16T06:40:25Z

I recently went on a seven day fast, but on the third day, I began to poop lots and lots of air.

There wasn't any blood, which I would consider A MEDICAL EMERGENCY, but it is quite embarrassing to - how do you say let loose this much air when the bathroom walls at work are so thin. It's so bad they gave me a new nickname at work. Hmph!

But what to do?

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fasting with low blood sugar

2005-10-26T22:24:01Z

i have low blood sugar and am doing my first water fast in three years. my diet is much more whole now, but i feel very dizzy and head-weak just on this first day. *didn't used to hit until at least day 3*

has anyone had a similar experience?? i am wondering if its safe to continue (am i going to smack my head open passing out) or if my body will level and can haul through.

??

*thanks to you*

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Fasting and Bleeding?

2005-10-25T19:25:27Z

Hallo!

I'm thinking of doing a 4-day fast this coming weekend, but I'm also *supposed* to have my period any time now...

Any counter-indication? I don't plan much on doing anything besides catching up on movies and reading and writing...

I think I sould be fine, but just checking with you, bunch of experts...
I never really fasted, just last August, having just one meal of salad a day for a week and drinking Green+ in orange juice... that wast great.

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RAMADAN AND CONSUMERISM: A talk by DR. USAMA HASAN sponsored by the London Islamic Network for the Environment (LINE)

2005-09-07T17:24:20Z

The London Islamic Network for the Environment (LINE) invites you to:

RAMADAN AND CONSUMERISM

Date: Sunday 11th Sept 2005
Time: 2.15 pm to 4.45pm
Venue: 4th Floor, Muslim World League, 46 Goodge Street, London, W1A
(entrance on the corner of Charlotte Street); Nearest Tube: Goodge
Street (Northern Line)

Guest Speaker: Dr Usama Hasan

According to the Koran, the purpose of the magnificent spiritual
discipline called Siyam (Fasting) has always been for individuals and
communities to attain Taqwa, which can be translated as God-
centredness. The practice of fasting is the closest thing Islam has
to monasticism; in the words of a leading Muslim intellectual, Islam
is "like a society of married monks and nuns." Ramadan offers,
amongst many other Divine blessings, the opportunity to purify
ourselves from the human weaknesses of material want, greed and
consumerism through development of the virtues of patience,
contentment, gratitude and generosity. This short talk will explore
these themes on the basis of the revealed scripture of Islam and
outline ways in which Muslims can prevent Ramadan and Eid becoming
extravagant food festivals. The intrinsic emphasis in Ramadan on
avoiding extravagance, gluttony and consumerism has obvious
resonances with ecological and environmental concerns. There will
also be time a discussion, and after the talk there will be an
opportunity to hear about LINE activities and ways of getting
involved in environmental activities.

About the speaker:

Usama Hasan holds a PhD in Artificial Intelligence and is also a
formal hafiz of the Generous Qur'an, having completed his
memorisation of the divine revelation at the age of ten. He is
currently a university lecturer in computing science and also an imam
and khatib at al-Tawhid Mosque in Leyton, east London. Recently, he
has begun making the two-mile journey from home to mosque by bicycle
rather than by car, especially for Friday Prayers, in an attempt to
put into practice the "green message" of Islam.

For more information:
Tel: 0845 456 3960
LINE website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LINE_meetings

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The Islamic month of Sha'ban

2005-09-06T07:49:34Z

Peace,
Just wondering if there are any Muslims (or others) out there fasting the month of Sha'ban...........

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whats your juicer?

2005-09-01T21:20:26Z

http://healthyjuicer.com/

i was looking at that one but i have never bought a juicer and everyone i know has those expensive ones. (the ones i cant afford)
anyway...do you think this one would be worth it or just a waste?

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Spa Fasting / Cleansing

2005-08-24T15:41:22Z

Hello All -
I am new here but really enjoying the postings. Very encouraging and supportive. I am leaving in 3 weeks to go to Samui Island in Thailand to do my second cleanse/fast this year. I am amazed at the benefits I have experienced since my cleanse and before as I spent a few months do liver clease drinks and 2/3 raw foods to prepare. It was not hard at all and I really enjoyed not having to deal with the whole food thing (shopping, cooking, cleaning, thinking, planning, "I don't know, what do you feel like having?...etc...) While I have lost a bit more than 40 pounds, I have really noticed changed in my body functioning, overall energy and attitude.

I am curious - has anyone here done any spa cleansing? If so - how was your experience? Could you recommend any place? The place that I go follows Dr. Richard Anderson's book "Cleanse Thyself." My only complaint is that while feeling full/empty is dealth with by using herbal supplements and bentonite clay and husks drinks a few times a day, I felt too full for the last three days of my 7 day fast - to the point that I didn't want any supplements and the idea of swallowing them made me panicy. Anyone else have this experience?

Thanks in advance for your input!
Alice
Tokyo area, Japan
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KOMBUCHA!!

2005-08-05T05:27:31Z

Does anyone know if its safe to supplement a juice and herbal tea fast with G.T. kombucha?

I've included kombucha before on a fast, but I found I would get strange stomach aches after I drank it.

What do you guys think?

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Prune Juice

2005-08-05T04:52:38Z

Eh?

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High Vibe & Living Foods Class NJ!

2005-08-04T02:54:53Z

I will be teaching a class on raw foods- the philosophies and principles of the lifestyle in Montville NJ on 9/18. This will be for all newcomers, and healers and lightworkers who are looking for another way to raise their frequencies. The class is not covering preparation this time, but discussing the scientific and energtic principles of raw foodism. The cost is $35 if RSVP'ed in advance.
There is more information on my profile, and I can send anyone whose interested a flyer via email.

If you know anyone who is interested in the NJ/CT/NY area, please spread the word! If you want to attend, or just want to network and spread the word.

Thanks! -Renee

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Ekadashi

2005-07-27T21:33:42Z

Ekadashi is a Hindu fast before the new and full moons, so every fortnight. It means "eleven" in Sanscrit, and occurs eleven days after the full land eleven days after the new moons. I've observed it every once in a while for a couple of decades, and i think it is a very good idea. I've come to think the human digestive system, like everything else, is keyed in to moon cycles, and it is very good to reset the system, particularly before the new moon. Eating light or not at all befor the full moon helps one to channel that energy. Here is a link.

http://www.ashram.org/ashram_info/vratinfo.html

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